Darkness

Oh that's easy - he realised that a subscription model was daft

There seems to be much agreement amoung my friends that I ought to be tempted over to the Dark Side. But there's very little agreement about what actually counts as the Dark Side. It's fashionable, but lacks mutual agreement. Somehow, that explains why the devil gets all the best tunes, but don't ask me how.

I'm very tempted to buy a cheap Mac, but I'd be disappointed if it couldn't run eclipse

Just for you me'dear, I'm installing it on my G4 500 - which is a lot less powerful than the Mac Mini.

If it works (and I can't see why it shouldn't), I'll let you know...

That's very, very good of you. Thank you.

Geek solidarity, that's what I say...

LOL Here you go - not the most responsive thing in the world, but I was running it on my server box and I haven't updated the Java thingumy on that for ages. The Tiger Java machine is a lot faster I think

Groovy! Thanks for doing that. That's a very good sign, especially as Eclipse 3.1 has a huge number of performance improvements and is due for final release very soon. I do believe that's finally sold me on the idea.

Welcome to the Dark Side Kris >:-)

(although I always thought that was Windows...)

La la la

http://developer.apple.com/tools/eclipse.html

That's interesting stuff, but I wish they'd put a 'minimum requirements' bit in. I'm very tempted to buy a cheap Mac, but I'd be disappointed if it couldn't run eclipse. Of course I know, All You Need Is Vim™, but this isn't for work, it's for play.

I too am tempted by the Dark Side. I feel that to be a proper techie I must master the 'Three Biggies'*, but I've yet to master more than one of them... Must get learning Unix/Linux soon. After that it will be 'bring on the Macs. And not the rain-repelling kind.

*Windows, Unix, MacOS